Sunderland boss Gus Poyet rubbishes claims Newcastle United are the bigger club.
Poyet has questioned the wider perception that Newcastle is a bigger club than Sunderland.
"From the outside, for some reason, Newcastle are apparently a bigger club than Sunderland, but when you are here, you realise there is no difference," he said.
"Maybe it's because of the publicity Newcastle gets, the city centre or maybe even the airport, Sunderland does not have one.
"It is easier to talk about Newcastle than Sunderland."