“And the challenge sometimes comes in that way, Ben Mee has hardly missed a game, and continues to hardly miss a game, so it's not easy on that score.
“But the players, having been a player, buy into the challenge of whatever is in front of you, and you do it for the right reasons, and he's certainly done that.
“He came in to make a mark and wants to play, but also knows there's good players playing as well.
“Longy has been sitting there as well and he's an international footballer, he doesn't always play. He's probably played more than some people think, but he's probably sitting there the same, he's been digging it out for years, keeping his professionalism right, his quality levels right, his training right, but gets a handful of games at a time.
“That's sometimes the challenge of the job, but I think they are also honest players and are respectful of that moment in time, and at the minute, I don't think either will be questioning Ben and Tarky."