Raul and Guti will not start preseason training with Real Madrid.

Real management have given both players time off until the 26th to sort out their futures.

Raul is in talks with Schalke and Borussia Dortmund, while Guti was in Istanbul earlier this week to discuss a move to Bernd Schuster's Besiktas.

Both Real legends want to continue playing next season - but it is becoming clear they are not in new coach Jose Mourinho's plans.

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