Bolton Wanderers captain Kevin Davies still remembers when Tottenham boss Harry Redknapp branded him as "hopeless".
It was very different back in 2002 when the White Hart Lane boss was in charge at Portsmouth and came up against an out-of-sorts striker making his loan debut for Millwall.
Redknapp said earlier this season: "I remember it well. Kevin was hopeless. I mean, he was really poor."
Wanderers star Davies, 32, grins and rolls his eyes when reminded about it - but admits he cannot really argue as his career was going nowhere back then.
He said: "I like Harry, he tells it how it is and he knows the game pretty well - and it's probably fair comment, actually.
"I was a Southampton player sent on loan to Millwall and it was Portsmouth away first up of all things. I remember speaking to the boss Mark McGhee on Thursday and he said he wanted me to play.
"I said 'Maybe I should just come and watch this one' but he insisted. I knew I wasn't in the best of shape, I was probably carrying too much weight because I hadn't played for six months or so.
"With all the stick I got, it couldn't have been a worse start. Harry was probably right, I didn't have the best of games that day.
"But since then, I've done well against Tottenham so maybe now he's changed his mind about me - although he's never tried to buy me as far as I know!"