Birmingham City boss Alex McLeish says a top six finish is unrealistic.
McLeish is aware that expectation levels have risen amongst supporters after Blues finished ninth last season.
But he has echoed the thoughts of former City manager Trevor Francis, who feels a top-six berth is an unrealistic aspiration.
McLeish said: "It is ludicrous to suggest that. It is incredible that some people think that.
"But my experiences in the game tell me it is nigh on impossible.
"We can all dream and have ambition but there are about eight teams in there who, over a length of the season, will always come to the fore.
"Then the rest are fighting for the other places.
"If we come ninth again, it will be phenomenal.
"I would judge that even better than last season. Finishing in the top 17 is our priority again."